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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.11.09 07:53:00 -
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press F1 for invulnerability
seems balanced |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.11.09 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 09/11/2010 00:58:44
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro If they're taking the time and effort to pick their targets, they deserve some success.
What about the time and effort others put in trying to find them? What success do they deserve ?
None. As long as you're cloaked, you can't harm anyone, so why should there be any risk to you? Would you like a means of shooting afk docked people, too, or people who aren't even logged in?
Don't forget people at a POS or those unprobable ships
I guess in theory these would be good analogies if I could hit F1 and instantly be docked in a station or inside pos shields no matter where I go, like I can with a cloak. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.11.09 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 09/11/2010 18:43:40 Edited by: Nicolo da''Vicenza on 09/11/2010 18:41:25
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
I guess in theory these would be good analogies if I could hit F1 and instantly be docked in a station or inside pos shields no matter where I go, like I can with a cloak.
An unprobable tengu doesnt even have to press F1 and niether does the guy at a pos while the one in the station is never more than one click away from undocking.
It all results in the same effect, a red in local. A person docked in a station or sitting in a pos can't just return to his keyboard and undock from station 2500m from a PvE ship that he knows is there. And what's more, they can't bring their pos or their station from system to system, always within 2500m docking range anytime they like. Sorry, but the effects are not the same.
Press F1, be invulnerable to attack. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.11.11 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Nicolo da'Vicenza A person docked in a station or sitting in a pos can't just return to his keyboard and undock from station 2500m from a PvE ship that he knows is there. And what's more, they can't bring their pos or their station from system to system, always within 2500m docking range anytime they like. Sorry, but the effects are not the same.
Press F1, be invulnerable to attack.
Actualy my corp has been doing this for years in venal. We can be docked in a station for hours on end and then undock, scan out something tasty and warp on top of it. We even hide next door and get the kills.
AFK cloakers are just as dangerous as a red in a station, at a pos, in an unprobable ship or the guy next door. You want to nerf it all?
Good for you. You can travel one whole system out and say that compares to being able to have a superior level of safety anywhere you go though? Don't be silly.
But I'll still one up you though: I make the vast majority of my isk by cloaking my way with goods through WHs in blockade runners. In all the countless runs I've made since Apocrypha I've never been seriously impeded by any single thing thanks to the cloaking module. This is not because I'm an especially skilled pilot - just that with a cloak, PVP becomes entirely consensual on my part no matter where I go. The same level of safety you have in your station the AFK cloaker enjoys anywhere with both far greater versatility and effectiveness.
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